[ExI] Single Payer Healthcare

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Sun Apr 2 01:28:32 UTC 2017


On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Jason Resch <jasonresch at gmail.com> wrote:


> ​> ​
> I meant it is cherry-picked data in the way it is framed: It picks the 30
> countries that have higher life expectancies than the US.


​Obviously. If you assume you don't know everything and can learn how to
improve your performance on some task then you look to people who are good
at that task not people who are bad at it.


> ​> ​
> This frames the argument in a particular way, and ignores the majority of
> the available data: the 145 other countries that have lower health
> expectancies than the US.


​Every single one of those 145 countries spends dramatically less on
healthcare than the USA, so it's not a surprise they have shorter lives
than those in the USA. The less surprising something is the less
information it has. But 30 countries spend much less on health than the USA
but live longer. Now that is surprising and thus has lots of information we
can use.  ​


​>> ​
>> ​It's not a single statistic!!! It's comparing the results of a multi
>> trillion dollar healthcare policy in 31 countries involving a billion
>> people over a period of decades, and the more libertarian policy did NOT
>> come out on top.
>>
>
> ​> ​
> Should it?
>

​That depends on your goal, if it's to have the citizens of your country
live longer and pay less then yes, it should. But it doesn't.  ​


​>> ​
>> That is not an opinion and it's not a alternative fact, it's just a fact
>> supported by a mountain of data. As a libertarian I wish the data had told
>> us something else but as a rational man I refuse to argue with reality;
>> after all intelligence means adapting to changing information.
>>
>
> ​> ​
> A fact, yes, but one that offers very little about what should be done.
>

​Oh come on Jason, ​I like libertarianism too but you don't want to be a
apologist for it like
Sean Spicer
​ is for Trump.​

​> ​
> Should we not do the scientific thing, and examine past experiments or
> conduct new ones to test your theory?
>

​Good God! A test has already been done and it involved a billion people
trillions of dollars and several decades, but you need a even bigger even
longer test before you're convinced libertarian dogma might need some
modification as we approach the singularity.

 John K Clark











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