[ExI] star trek

[William Flynn Wallace]

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 11:33 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

​As I get older, I totally get Freud too.  It wasn’t that he was crazy at
all; just a horny bastard.  Well, sure I can relate, but we horny bastards
are people too and should be treated with dignity and respect.



spike
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​Freud was right about so many things, and wrong about more than that.
When he was right, it was amazing.  When he was wrong, he was extremely
wrong.

But no one has ever challenged his take on humanity:  sex and aggression
are the dominant drives in humans.  The unconscious plays a huge role in
our lives - maybe the largest one by far.  Lately the metaphors are like
this:  the ego is a person riding an elephant, and has a great deal of
control, but when the elephant wants to ignore the rider's direction there
is little that can be done.  These are not from Freudians, btw, but the
ideas are definitely his (and he is getting little credit nowadays - people
are hung up on his wrong ideas, such as oral, anal, Oedipal stages, etc.)

There is evidence that one of Freud's hangups was sex, and that he was
something of a prude, all of which did not seem to influence his theories.

bill w​


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> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On
> Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 08, 2017 8:15 AM
> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Subject:* [ExI] star trek
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> >…So it's a slow week for our group.  So, some trivia:  remember the
> opening scenes from Star Trek?  The ship, the words "Go where no man has
> gone before".
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> >…Did you ever think of sex during that?  The phallic ship, the virgin
> reference?  (It took me awhile, but being the post Freudian that I am, I
> got it.)
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> >…bill w
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> Well, no.  But that was only because I was 7 years old at the time.  Ten
> years later, I would have easily gotten the phallic angle, the whole triple
> set along with what could vaguely be said to resemble a diaphragm or
> possibly a still undeployed birth control device, ja I get that.
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> As I get older, I totally get Freud too.  It wasn’t that he was crazy at
> all; just a horny bastard.  Well, sure I can relate, but we horny bastards
> are people too and should be treated with dignity and respect.
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> spike
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