[ExI] Greener Urban Environment

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 7 18:58:10 UTC 2017


spike wrote:  In those areas, as far as I know it is difficult to even
qualify to sit for the boards exam without a college degree in the topic

Yes, yes, but that's now.  And it needs to change.

Of course videos are better.  At the U of A nobody thought about making
money with the videos, and so they were soso at best.

Get rid of professors:  already started.  Get adjuncts:  same reason you
want to learn online - don't have to pay health care, pensions, other
perks.

How may profs are productive?  And how many just write for conferences and
don't have the quality to get into journals?  A majority, I think.

We don't know much about what a college graduate can do in many cases.
Answer:  the tests I referred to.  Tests would be constructed by those who
actually do the jobs the hirees will be doing if hired and then polished by
the psychometrician.

Then we will see that real quality, real knowledge, can be tested by valid
instruments.  Who cares about a degree?  Show them what you can do.

Right now grad schools almost always demand the GRE, as they have no idea
what people know who graduated from Podunk U.  Ditto LSAT, MCAT

Then you move on to advanced knowledge like doctors get certification in
advanced techniques and areas.

Yeah, I am trying to fix it all, not just help one of our own.  For now,
the traditional way has to be it - I agree.

bill w

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:02 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *>…* *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Greener Urban Environment
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> >>…Modern people can learn online all the stuff we ancients learned the
> traditional way at enormous expense…spike
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> >…Long ago, when people were still people (around 1966 for me), at the U
> of Alabama they put in a TV course for Psych 101.  …
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> BillW, compare and contrast please the content and quality of those 1966
> lectures to the online content available today, then comment if you wish.
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> >…Why not do like the old lawyers did:  study it on their own and pass
> the bar exam?  No law school courses needed.  Why couldn't this be done for
> math and many other subjects?
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> We already have a system of establishing credentials for some professions,
> which is used to grant titles to those who pass.  Medicine, law, accounting
> and engineering are four examples.  In those areas, as far as I know it is
> difficult to even qualify to sit for the boards exam without a college
> degree in the topic.  Engineering you can, but it requires additional time
> in apprenticeship, something not really available to medics or lawyers.
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> >…Labs are not mentioned.  Aren't they useful in many cases?  Take
> chemistry online and never get the opportunity to blow up the lab?  bill w
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> Lab courses might be the prime candidate for being replaced by sims, since
> lab courses are relatively expensive and possibly dangerous.  As in pilot
> school, not only are sims good enough to do all the training, they are
> preferred.  You can throw situations at the trainees too dangerous for
> real-life.  A person can get a commercial pilot’s license without ever
> having left the ground.
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> We can sim chemistry labs already.  Don’t know about biology labs.
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