[ExI] extropy-chat Digest, Vol 179, Issue 2

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From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of John Clark
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Subject: Re: [ExI] extropy-chat Digest, Vol 179, Issue 2


On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Ben Zaiboc <ben at zaiboc.net <mailto:ben at zaiboc.net> > wrote:


> Nobody has to prove that gods don't exist, which is a thing that many religious apologists find annoying.




>…There is no proof God doesn't exist and there is no proof a teapot is not in orbit around Uranus, nevertheless I think it would be silly to call myself a teapot agnostic, I am not ashamed to call myself a teapot atheist.



John K Clark



Shouldn’t that be spelled ateaist?


When dealing with religious people, there is a line of reasoning I find very common: life without religion is pointless, meaningless, etc, because it has no significant long term… anything.  So, they choose to believe because it gives life meaning.


A related line of reasoning hold that only religion offers a basis for morality, and a life without morality would harm others, so… they choose to believe in order to avoid harm to innocents.




OK then, I am one who has discovered joy, meaning and morality in this short life, apart from religion.









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