[ExI] Transparent Society problem HELP - LAWYER

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Fri Nov 16 15:13:38 UTC 2018


On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 3:06 PM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

  > A person is not free to say just anything, the old standard being
> yelling FIRE in a movie theater.
>

Some people seem to think a corollary to the right to say anything is the
right to make everybody listen as would happen when somebody shouted
anything in a quiet movie theater; but I think "fire" is the only thing you
do have a right to shout in a movie theater, and then only if there is a
fire.

It's interesting to trace the history of that fire in the theater metaphor,
it comes
 from a decision written in 1919 by Judge Oliver Wendell Holmes and
involved those who spoke out against the draft during the first world war.
Holmes was on the Supreme Court for 30 years and near the end of his life
said that was the single worst decision he ever made during his entire
career as a judge.
But the saying lives on.



> > Unfortunately for us liberals, the ultra liberal crowd makes big noises
> about offending.
>

I agree, the conservatives have a fetish about the Second Amendment, I
think the liberals should have a fetish for something far more important,
the First Amendment.

By the way, what is it that conservatives are trying to conserve? It's
certainly not money as government debt has exploded over the last 2 years.
It's certainly not the environment as they're dismantling pollution
regulations as fast as they can. It's certainly not personal freedom as
self styled conservatives want to change the libel laws so they can stop
people from printing unflattering articles about the current presadent and
think women should be punished if they have a abortion and nobody should
have the right to smoke a cigarette unless its made of tobacco and nothing
else.

A conservative doesn't even want to conserve the traditional way of doing
things. Our new Attorney General, the one with the looks but not the brains
of Lex Luthor, thinks the judiciary is the inferior branch of government
and thinks we should change something that goes all the way back to 1803,
he thinks the Supreme Court made a error in Marbury v. Madison, that was
the first time the court ruled that an act of congress was unconstitutional.

 John K Clark


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