[ExI] End Game (was Gene drift)

[William Flynn Wallace]

But our window to colonize
other galaxies is closing fast. At some point, without FTL we will become
trapped in our local group of galaxies.

Stuart LaForge

Some theories say that we are creating new universes all the time (which
theories I dunno).  Perhaps we will find a way to enter them.  bill w

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 11:41 AM Stuart LaForge <avant at sollegro.com> wrote:

> Keith Henson wrote:
>
> > What is the long-term future?
>
> According to my calculations based on the FLRW metric, there is a net
> outflow of matter from our causal cell. What this means is that unless new
> matter is somehow formed, there will come a time when the only matter in
> our causal cell are black holes, dark matter, and virtual particles.
>
> Biological organisms are largely chemically-stored solar energy. When the
> last star fades, there will be no way for our causal cell to sustain
> biological life. Intelligent machines however might be able to sustain
> themselves by extracting energy from the rotation of black holes and
> perhaps from creating and harvesting Hawking radiation from miniature
> black holes.
>
> But the reign of wet carbon will be over.
>
> > Do humans stay biological?  Or do we
> > upload and become mostly machines?
>
> John is right. Long term, there will be no choice.
>
> > Do we spread into the universe or stay
> > where the speed of light lets us communicate?  (Assuming no FTL.)
>
> If we manage to survive, then chances are we will have done both. There
> will likely be increasingly impractical attempts at centralized government
> for the expanding interstellar Human or Post-human Empire but
> fragmentation and diaspora will be inevitable in the long term.
>
> But that will be a good thing, because if we can spread ourselves far
> enough fast enough, then we will be nearly extinction-proof until the
> black holes themselves have evaporated away. But our window to colonize
> other galaxies is closing fast. At some point, without FTL we will become
> trapped in our local group of galaxies.
>
> Stuart LaForge
>
>
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