[ExI] Maximum Jailbreak, and the legacy of Stephen Hawking Message-ID:

[William Flynn Wallace]

adrian wrote:  This requires quite a bit of mass, but moving quite a bit of
mass through a zero-g environment is far simpler than many other
things we discuss
on this list.  We're talking "large asteroid" range, far smaller than even
the Moon, so this could be done with today's technology (though it would
cost in the millions or billions of dollars).
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So the scifi stories I read will come true:  we will move asteroids into
Earth orbit, and create large tunnels to live in, providing radiation
protection, and then tow asteroids which are full of water to supply the
colony (like one of Asimov's stories where they got a water asteroid (if
that's what you call it) from the rings of Saturn).  I suppose metals and
even oil could also be supplied by asteroids.  I doubt the 'oil' part, but
what do I know?

Good stuff!  bill w

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 7:04 PM Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:

> Short of re-engineering humans (including uploading, which is
> "re-engineering" onto a silicon substrate), add sufficient radiation
> shielding to reduce background radiation aboard to background
> radiation levels at Earth's surface.  10 microseverts per day, was it?
>
> This requires quite a bit of mass, but moving quite a bit of mass
> through a zero-g environment is far simpler than many other things we
> discuss on this list.  We're talking "large asteroid" range, far
> smaller than even the Moon, so this could be done with today's
> technology (though it would cost in the millions or billions of
> dollars).
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:16 AM William Flynn Wallace
> <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > My question about living in space:  what do you do about the radiation
> for the long term?  Did you ever read Lois McMaster Bujold?  Her space
> living humans were designed with four hands, not needing legs in space.
> Quaddies.
> >
> > bill w
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:15 AM Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Or just upload people to suitable hardware. I think this will be the
> >> long-term solution.
> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:50 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On
> Behalf Of SR
> >> > Ballard
> >> > Subject: Re: [ExI] Maximum Jailbreak, and the legacy of Stephen
> Hawking
> >> > Message-ID:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >...Yes, I think if we go to space sooner, it will become more of a
> physical
> >> > impetus to create post-human forms, because it will be so obvious we
> need
> >> > them.
> >> >
> >> > >...SR Ballard
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ja.  If we get sufficiently advanced in genetics, we could do
> selective
> >> > breeding of humans, only with a cool twist.  Perhaps we could
> selectively
> >> > breed humans with minds like the genetic parents but with small
> spindly
> >> > bodies more suited to reduced gravity and limited resources of an L5
> >> > station.
> >> >
> >> > spike
> >> >
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