[ExI] Hawaii telescope protests

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 24 15:16:53 UTC 2019


SR Ballard <> wrote:

> #1 - the destruction of the library by fire is WAYYY overstated.
> SR Ballard
> Oh?  Well, what was overstated about the destruction of thousands of
> documents by many famous Greeks?
>

bill w

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> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:00 AM BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> * > The Hawaii protest is not just about a few religious fundamentalists.
>> It is the flashpoint for a political protest about righting the wrongs
>> perceived to have been done to the Hawaiian people. Quote: Much of the
>> opposition has tapped into deep-seated grievances tied to the U.S.-backed
>> overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom in 1893,*
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> Well perhaps you're right, maybe the root cause of the protest is indeed
> some real or perceived injustice committed in 1893. I don't know if that's
> true and I don't give a damn if it is. Even if you're 100% correct all
> you've done is explain why their behavior is barbaric, you have not made
> that behavior one bit less barbaric. The people who burned down the Library
> of Alexandria had reasons to do so and no doubt they thought they were
> doing the right thing, but that doesn't change the fact that their actions
> dealt a serious blow to Civilization.
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> Let's go into a little more detail about the actions of those Hawaiian
> protestors. They have already delayed by 4 years what would have been the
> largest optical telescope in the world, and now after they lost in court
> and astronomers tried to resume construction they acted illegally and not
> only stopped all new construction they shut down 13 of the most important
> telescopes in the world that were telling us fascinating things about the
> universe.
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> I'm not a fool, I know I'm on the losing side and despite the favorable
> court ruling the magnificent Thirty Meter Telescope is doomed and perhaps
> those 13 existing telescopes on the mountain are too; but even though its
> hopeless I like to think if I was alive back when the library was burning
> I'd have a bucket of water in my hand and not a torch. So how about you? Do
> you stand with the enlightenment or do you stand with the barbarians?
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> John K Clark
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