[ExI] dead weight

Rafal Smigrodzki rafal.smigrodzki at gmail.com
Thu May 16 03:04:21 UTC 2019

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:23 PM Dan TheBookMan <danust2012 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Since others have raised it here too, the libertarian position on
> immigration is open borders or, rather, no borders. People should be free
> to peacefully migrate wherever they please rather than wherever some ruling
> elite decides (whether that decision involves a voting majority or
> whatnot).

### But somebody who enters an area against the express wishes of its
owners is clearly breaking a libertarian rule, doesn't she? Ownership of
property is one of the sacred principles of our ideology, and property is
first and foremost the right of exclusion, the right not to let others
enter or use said property.

So how can you square that with the no borders position? Can't libertarians
organize and coordinate among ourselves? If we can build fences around our
houses, why can't we draw lines around our neighborhoods?

Please don't tell me that there is a "libertarian position" on borders. I
am libertarian and I disagree with you. That doesn't make me or my ideas

Actually, the libertarian position is that people should be free to move
wherever they are welcome.

Today most opposition to immigration in almost all countries subject to
this threat comes from the lower classes, the regular folks, while various
factions of the ruling elites often encourage immigration for various
reasons. One couldn't guess that from reading your post.
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