[ExI] sat scores and musical tastes

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 6 23:35:10 UTC 2020


Ja the argument claims that the prepared do better on the SAT, so it isn’t
a fair test.  Sheesh.

You would have to live pretty far out in the boonies not to know that SAT
prep was free all over the web.  Me, I took the ACT.  Context:  you had to
be in ROTC in 1960 - land grant college.  So we marched here, filled out
stuff, marched there, filled out stuff, etc.  One of the things was the
ACT.  I marked answers at random and put my head down and took a long nap.
Later college officials would look at my score, look at me, and ask how I
got into Honors English.  I think I made a 4 or something absurd (etymology
of 'absurd' = away from the normal - I sure was).

As far as 'fair' is concerned, there aren't any fair tests.  You can always
come up with some cultural variable background and claim unfairness.  But
fair for most?  Yes  And only those who make low scores complain.  High
ones never do, though some did get high scores by chance.  Very few, though.

bill w

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 5:35 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> > *On Behalf Of *Will Steinberg via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] sat scores and musical tastes
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> >…Lol @ Spike discovering Sufjan Stevens XD
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> >…Decade or two too late my friend ��
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> Hi Will hey, I have been busy the last decade or two: finishing up a
> career, then being a fulltime parent.  {8^D
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> I am not alone: I can imagine plenty of music non-hipsters in our world
> today, who would like Sufjan Stevens if they ever heard of him.  A lot of
> us play our own CDs in the car and we are too busy with other matters at
> home, so we don’t know the latest hip sounds on Americaaaaan Top
> Fortyyyyyyyy (is Casey Kasem still doing those? (no I suppose not (he would
> hafta be about 90 yrs old by now (but we loved that radio show.))))
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> If you want a good laugh: my car still has a cassette tape player and it
> still works really well.  My cassettes are worn out so I don’t use them
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> >…SAT scores only show how prepared you are to take the SAT.  Can be for a
> variety of reasons.  Some very very smart people who I know also did not
> great on the SAT…
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> Ja the argument claims that the prepared do better on the SAT, so it isn’t
> a fair test.  Sheesh.
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> OK cool, let’s look at it another way.  Suppose we could (somehow) prevent
> anyone from preparing, so everyone went into the SAT cold.  Then what would
> happen?  Would the spread be smaller?  Or just different?  And why do we
> assume that there is some kind of class thing going on?  My notion is that
> middle or lower middle class people are hungry but not too discouraged to
> try harder.  So they are the ones who really put their shoulder into the
> test prep and do well.  This would work against stratification of society
> with the same people generation after generation at the top, ja?
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> I have vague doubts there was any serious research that went into the
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> It would make for a fun sociology experiment to try to make a real chart
> like this.
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> I can see a problem with trying to correlate these: most people don’t
> remember their SAT scores unless they were extraordinary and on the right
> end of the spectrum.
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> Here it is:
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> https://www.labnol.org/internet/music-taste-linked-to-intelligence/7489/
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