[ExI] waving guns

Dylan Distasio interzone at gmail.com
Thu Oct 15 18:46:01 UTC 2020


I agree with you.  If I pull my firearm out, it will be followed shortly by
the trigger being pulled.  I would never pull it out as anything other than
a last resort with intent to use it immediately because I had decided
myself or my family was in mortal danger with no way to retreat.

That said, they also made themselves immediate targets through their
ill-advised decision.  Their defense is going to be that they believed they
were in mortal danger due to the belligerence of the crowd and the fact
they had broken a gate and intruded onto private property.   My point
remains, however, that regardless of it being a dumb move, the decision to
charge them is completely political.   Missouri has (had) an aggressive
castle doctrine, and outside of the current environment, it is hard for me
to believe a DA would have brought charges.



On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> The woman in particular was pointing the gun at people.  You should never
> point a gun at someone unless you are ok with killing them and the legal
> ramifications of that.  Idk there's a reason it's illegal.
>
> Plenty of laws are applied or not applied depending on context, so there's
> nothing special about that.  Just saying in general it's stupid to point a
> gun at someone if you're a lawyer and you aren't in immediate mortal danger
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 11:55 Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> In any other political environment, it is unlikely brandishing charges
>> would have been brought against two people standing ground on their own
>> property after a large band of trespassers had forcibly entered the
>> neighborhood.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:43 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> It's ridiculous that these lawyers didn't know that pointing guns at
>>> people is illegal.  And on the other side of the aisle, those two lawyers
>>> who threw the molotov at the cop car fucked up real bad too.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 11:29 SR Ballard via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe brandishing is illegal.
>>>>
>>>> SR
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:11 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see that a couple have been indicted on felony charges of waving guns
>>>> at a protest group on their private road.
>>>>
>>>> Do these laws vary, or do you know what rights gun owners have? (no,
>>>> not all of them!)
>>>>
>>>> bill w
>>>>
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