[ExI] 'Magic mushroom' compound may work just as well as antidepressants, small study finds

[Nuala Thomson]

Placebo effects are extremely effective for some people. The power of
brains and what and how we think affecting our lives never ceases to amaze
me.
That reminded me of a couple stories I heard once but cannot find reputable
sources to share.
Cancer and "spontaneous regression", and law of attraction used in terms of
health. Then all the religious stuff of miracle cures and what-have-you.
Are you able to share more deeply what is going on in your head for placebo
squared? I'm more than happy to try that on myself instead of another elbow
operation!


On Sat., Apr. 24, 2021, 02:58 William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat, <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Spike, why do you keep hurting your back?  Expecting different results
> from what you are doing?  Are you doing your stretches?  Core exercises?
> Good habits to start at your age.   And buy a TENS unit:  brand iReliev
> preferred.
>
> Most things don't last for very long, with or without treatment.  Your
> experience does not mean that the prior chiropractor treatment didn't
> work.  bill w
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 11:14 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> > *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
>> *Cc:* William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] 'Magic mushroom' compound may work just as well as
>> antidepressants, small study finds
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>> >…Nearly everyone underestimates the power of the placebo effect.  Or
>> even think it's not real - as if mental was not real.   bill w
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>> Not me Billw, I overestimate it, intentionally, because of a remarkable
>> discovery.  Read on please sir.
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>> If one has sufficient belief in the placebo effect, one can save time and
>> money by skipping the fake medication or therapy, which one would know (by
>> itself) is ineffective against the malady, but one knows the placebo effect
>> works even if one doesn’t believe in it.  In order for the placebo effect
>> to work under those circumstances, one must imagine one ate the fake
>> medication or underwent the fake therapy.  This is what I call the placebo
>> squared effect.
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>> I have a recent example.  I injured my back so severely a few yrs ago I
>> couldn’t even drive my car.  In desperate agony, I walked to a nearby
>> chiropractor, a questionable therapy I had previously refused because of
>> its pseudoscientific nature.  It worked!  I recovered completely in a few
>> days.
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>> On a camping trip last week, I injured my back severely once again, same
>> place (lumbar 4.)  Being on the road on the way out and not wanting to
>> spoil my family’s trip, I had not the option to visit a chiropractor, so I
>> resorted to the placebo squared effect.  I imagined I went to the
>> chiropractor and underwent what I think is a placebo effect therapy.  It
>> worked!  I recovered in a few days.
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>> The difference this time was that I had no “doctor” bills to pay
>> afterwards, for placebo squared therapy is free of charge and best of all,
>> it does not require a “doctor” putting her gropey paws on me, which I find
>> most distasteful.
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>> You’re quite welcome, my pleasure sir.
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>> spike
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