[ExI] [Extropolis] GPT-5 is closer than you think and may be thinking better than you think

[William Flynn Wallace]

To my knowledge there is not a strong correlation between loquaciousness
and intelligence, John Clark

The correlation should be fairly low.  Extroverts are the ones who will
talk your head off, and they are not cut out for Ph. D. etc.  How many
books, many of which are boring, do you go through to get a Ph. D.?  Lots
and lots.  Extroverts can have the IQ for this sort of thing, but not the
temperament.

And about half the introverts are on the shy side, and all of them hate
small talk.  Get them started on their area and you might not be able to
shut them up.

bill w

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 11:24 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 9:57 AM Lawrence Crowell <
> goldenfieldquaternions at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> What makes you think that? My working hypothesis has always been that
>>> if something behaves as if it's conscious then it is conscious. Even if
>>> you're right and it's no more sentient than a bag of bolts, from the human
>>> viewpoint it's irrelevant, for individuals the important thing is that it's
>>> intelligent. If it's not sentient then that's GPT-5's problem not
>>> mine.  And I could say exactly the same thing about the hypothesized
>>> consciousness of my fellow human beings.
>>> John K Clark
>>>
>>
>> *> I am sure that GPT-5 will without input sit there with an open cursor.
>> To me this suggests there is no inner subjective experience. A person by
>> contrast will rather spontaneously start a conversation.*
>>
>
> To my knowledge there is not a strong correlation between loquaciousness
> and intelligence, much less consciousness.  Paul Dirac was certainly
> intelligent but he was notorious for never initiating a conversation, and
> when asked a direct question he would usually answer with a simple yes or
> no. His colleagues even defined a new unit of measurement, "the Dirac",
> defined as one word uttered per hour.
>
>  John K Clark
>
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