[ExI] fax machines and chatgpt

[Will Steinberg]

Coming off the very end of maintenance meds right now. Half tapered half
big jumps down

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 11:12 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
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> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
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>> Addiction is very complicated.  It is a bit like OCD except the
>> compulsion changes your brain and mind and body with thousandfold magnitude
>> compared to washing your hands or arranging items.  I have personal
>> first-hand experience being an opiate addict.  Feel free to ask whatever
>> questions you want--free therapy for me
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>> Assuming that you have stopped, did you taper off or go cold turkey?
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>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:24 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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>>> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On
>>> Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
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>>> >…I do wonder just how many of the homeless really want to change.  If
>>> their addiction is strong, like as in heroin, and they are getting their
>>> fixes, they may put up with any conditions to keep things like they are.
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>>> >…Do the mentally ill, such as thousands of them in SF, get any
>>> treatment at all?  Spike?
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>>> I don’t know.  I am far from an authority on that Billw.  I now go into
>>> SF only to take a group of scouts hiking thru from the BART station to the
>>> wharf to catch a ferry to Angel Island, and even then, I keep everyone
>>> close and by sturdiest lads outboard.
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>>> You offered heroin as a strong addictive, but from what I hear, fentanyl
>>> is as bad to make new addicts and it is waaaaay less expensive, practically
>>> free now, the supply steady and inexhaustible.  I suspect it will put
>>> heroin out of business soon.  No need to grow all those poppies when
>>> fentanyl can be made in a lab with commonly-available constituents.  This
>>> cannot be controlled: fentanyl does not need to be made in Mexico.
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>>> I don’t know much about the brand of mental illness not related to
>>> addiction.  I know less than Sam Cooke on that.
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>>> I will offer an opinion: it is possible to house everyone and feed
>>> everyone, but not in the cities.  They pose a threat to the non-addicted
>>> mentally stable homeful.  The homeless, mentally ill and the addicts will
>>> need to be exported to safe housing way the heck out such as Termo
>>> California.  There is water there, plenty of room to set up Quonset huts by
>>> the thousands.  The cities have not been good for the mentally ill and
>>> addicts.
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