[ExI] fax machines and chatgpt

[William Flynn Wallace]

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:24 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Addiction is very complicated.  It is a bit like OCD except the compulsion
> changes your brain and mind and body with thousandfold magnitude compared
> to washing your hands or arranging items.  I have personal first-hand
> experience being an opiate addict.  Feel free to ask whatever questions you
> want--free therapy for me
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> Assuming that you have stopped, did you taper off or go cold turkey?
bill w

> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:24 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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>> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
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>> >…I do wonder just how many of the homeless really want to change.  If
>> their addiction is strong, like as in heroin, and they are getting their
>> fixes, they may put up with any conditions to keep things like they are.
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>> >…Do the mentally ill, such as thousands of them in SF, get any
>> treatment at all?  Spike?
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>> I don’t know.  I am far from an authority on that Billw.  I now go into
>> SF only to take a group of scouts hiking thru from the BART station to the
>> wharf to catch a ferry to Angel Island, and even then, I keep everyone
>> close and by sturdiest lads outboard.
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>> You offered heroin as a strong addictive, but from what I hear, fentanyl
>> is as bad to make new addicts and it is waaaaay less expensive, practically
>> free now, the supply steady and inexhaustible.  I suspect it will put
>> heroin out of business soon.  No need to grow all those poppies when
>> fentanyl can be made in a lab with commonly-available constituents.  This
>> cannot be controlled: fentanyl does not need to be made in Mexico.
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>> I don’t know much about the brand of mental illness not related to
>> addiction.  I know less than Sam Cooke on that.
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>> I will offer an opinion: it is possible to house everyone and feed
>> everyone, but not in the cities.  They pose a threat to the non-addicted
>> mentally stable homeful.  The homeless, mentally ill and the addicts will
>> need to be exported to safe housing way the heck out such as Termo
>> California.  There is water there, plenty of room to set up Quonset huts by
>> the thousands.  The cities have not been good for the mentally ill and
>> addicts.
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