[ExI] et tu chess?

[Dylan Distasio]

Yeah, to be clear, I don't really disagree with you in the mental arena,
but would be interesting to hear from some actual women competitors in
chess to see what their opinion(s) on the matter is.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 1:00 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> What about the extremely radical suggestion to scrap gender classes in
> chess?
>
> I can see the point in physical sports, but not quite in mental sports.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> > I don't know whether it is actually silly if we dig down on it.   Out of
> curiosity, are you in favor of banning biological men from
> > women's sports?   I would guess you probably are due to the very obvious
> physical advantages that biological men have over women.
> >  For the record, I am completely against transwomen competing in women's
> sports for these biological reasons, particularly in things
> > like UFC/MMA, swimming, track&field, powerlifting, etc.
> > So back to chess...Although I don't think there is enough real data to
> be sure, an argument can be made on the biological front there
> > as well as to why biological men/transwomen should not be allowed to
> compete in women's chess.    Men may hold a biological advantage
> > there as well in terms of brain differences, and the effects of
> testosterone on risk taking.
> >
> > You could also make the argument that even if the perceived superiority
> of men in playing chess is due purely to cultural issues and
> > the sheer numbers of men who play chess compared to women that allowing
> biological men/transwomen to compete there would put women at
> > a disadvantage overall.
> >
> > All that said, since noone is going to get injured playing chess, I am
> more inclined to say allow transwomen to compete there and see
> > what the outcomes are as I don't think we have enough data to know for
> sure that men have an innate advantage over women in the chess
> > arena.
> >
> > While I agree with you that it seems silly on its face compared to the
> more clear cut case of physical sports, I don't think the ban
> > is entirely without merit and shouldn't be immediately laughed off.
>  Like I said though, the consequences of allowing them to
> > compete in chess pale in comparison to physical sports, so maybe we
> should just see what happens and collect more data before
> > enacting a ban prematurely.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 11:56 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >       I just heard that the International Chess Federation (FIDE) is
> banning transgender women from competing in women’s
> >       chess.  Scandal!
> >
> >
> >
> >       Just when I think this old world has achieved peak silliness, we
> seem to discover new pinnacles of silliness.
> >
> >
> >
> >       This might have a downside however.
> >
> >
> >
> >       spike
> >
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