[ExI] teachers

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 24 15:19:14 UTC 2023


It seems that many of us want AIs to be people:  conscious, with emotions
and so forth.  I suggest that this stems from wanting uploading to work so
we can be immortal and have all the same lives we have now.

I suggest that this is the height of wishful thinking.  And putting the
cart WAY before the horse.    Jumping the gun, etc. Not rational. bill w

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:08 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I'm currently a materialist and find many good points in scientism, so if
> I have a box or a robot, that convinces me in every aspect that it is
> conscious
> by acting as if it was conscious, that's conscious for me.
>
> I do not subscribe to unique qualia or "redness" experiences, therefore, I
> cannot see a problem with the good old turing.
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023, Gregory Jones via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> > BillW's question regarding the instructor's task of distinguishing
> between a student and AI puts a final nail in the coffin of
> > Turing's test.  Artificial intelligence is able create an illusion of
> consciousness so convincing, we are still debating if it really
> > is the real thing, all while failing to adequately define precisely what
> we mean by "real."
> > spike
> >
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