[ExI] teachers

[Gregory Jones]

...>...height of wishful thinking...cart, horse inversion, gun jumping,
etc...

Billw, you will need to offer a bit of evidence to back up that strong
statement.  You offered us an opinion only.  Granted it is one shared by
most of humanity.

Regarding your question of asking ChatGPT to write in the style of a 12 yr
old, it can.  It does a better job of writing in 12 yr old than a smart 12
yr old.  Not as good as a dumb one, but they are working that.

But do explain why you are so confident that uploading to immortality is
not rational please.  Note that I am not necessarily disagreeing.  But I
want to hear your reasoning.

spike

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 8:20 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> It seems that many of us want AIs to be people:  conscious, with emotions
> and so forth.  I suggest that this stems from wanting uploading to work so
> we can be immortal and have all the same lives we have now.
>
> I suggest that this is the height of wishful thinking.  And putting the
> cart WAY before the horse.    Jumping the gun, etc. Not rational. bill w
>
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:08 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm currently a materialist and find many good points in scientism, so if
>> I have a box or a robot, that convinces me in every aspect that it is
>> conscious
>> by acting as if it was conscious, that's conscious for me.
>>
>> I do not subscribe to unique qualia or "redness" experiences, therefore,
>> I
>> cannot see a problem with the good old turing.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023, Gregory Jones via extropy-chat wrote:
>>
>> > BillW's question regarding the instructor's task of distinguishing
>> between a student and AI puts a final nail in the coffin of
>> > Turing's test.  Artificial intelligence is able create an illusion of
>> consciousness so convincing, we are still debating if it really
>> > is the real thing, all while failing to adequately define precisely
>> what we mean by "real."
>> > spike
>> >
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