[ExI] teachers

Gregory Jones spike at rainier66.com
Mon Aug 28 22:23:48 UTC 2023


Sure would.   Aaaaaaalllll that money in aaaaallll those parallel
universes, and here I am with no way to get over there, scoop it all up and
sneak back over here with it.  Tragic I tells ya.  spike

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 2:11 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Wouldn't that just be a waste of money if the multiverse theory is true?
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023, Keith Henson via extropy-chat wrote:
>
> > If you are serious about living a long time, sign up for cryonics.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:42 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
> > <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:09 PM BillK via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 at 17:46, efc--- via extropy-chat
> >>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Thank you Jason. It would be fun if there were any passionate people
> on
> >>> > the list who subscribe to the other interpretations as well. I'm
> sure that
> >>> > that conversation would be much more stimulating, than the one
> between you
> >>> > and an agnostic. ;)
> >>> >
> >>> > Best regards, Daniel
> >>> >_______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I asked a passing AI -
> >>> 'Does the multiverse imply that humans after death live on in another
> universe?'
> >>>
> >>> The AI considered for a few seconds, looked rather shocked at the
> >>> question and replied -
> >>>
> >>> The concept of the multiverse is a theoretical framework that suggests
> >>> the existence of multiple universes, each with its own set of physical
> >>> laws, constants, and initial conditions. While the idea of the
> >>> multiverse has gained popularity in scientific and philosophical
> >>> discussions, it is important to note that it remains a speculative
> >>> concept without empirical evidence.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would say it is at present, the default theory in many domains of
> science:
> >>
> >> Particle physics: string theory implies a landscape of many possibile
> universes ruled by different possible equations allowed under string theory.
> >>
> >> Quantum mechanics: all interpretations of QM are multiverse theories,
> CI just says all but one of the other universes disappear when we look at
> them, and Bohm just says that the people in the other universes not guided
> by the pilot wave are zombies (not conscious), so we don't have to worry
> about them.
> >>
> >> Cosmology: inflation is the default explanation of the big bang, we
> have empirical evidence for it, and it also implies an infinity of
> universes. Also, the standard model of cosmology assumes a flat (infinite)
> space, which implies an infinity of copies of both Earth and yourself.
> >>
> >> Fine-tuning: At present, the only scientific explanation for all the
> fine tuning coincidences is a multiverse (the other possible answer being
> intelligent design)
> >>
> >> Mathematics: most mathematicians are platonists (mathematical
> realists), if all possible mathematical structures exist, some of them will
> be like our universe, and will contain life and self aware substitutes,
> this is Tegmark's level 4 multiverse.
> >>
> >>
> >> So you might say these are speculative (what in science isn't?), but
> it's worth pointing out that the idea of a multiverse is also the
> mainstream, default, or only theory we have in many fields.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In the context of the multiverse, there are various interpretations
> >>> and theories regarding what happens to humans after death. However, it
> >>> is crucial to emphasize that these ideas are purely speculative and
> >>> not supported by scientific evidence.
> >>>
> >>> One interpretation suggests that if the multiverse exists, there could
> >>> be universes where life continues after death in some form. This idea
> >>> stems from the notion that if there are infinite universes, then every
> >>> possible outcome and variation would occur somewhere within this vast
> >>> cosmic landscape. Therefore, proponents argue that there might be
> >>> universes where consciousness or some form of existence persists
> >>> beyond physical death.
> >>>
> >>> However, it is important to recognize that this interpretation relies
> >>> on several assumptions and speculative reasoning. Firstly, it assumes
> >>> that consciousness can exist independently of a physical body, which
> >>> is a topic of ongoing debate within philosophy and neuroscience.
> >>> Secondly, it assumes that the multiverse exists and operates in a way
> >>> that allows for such variations in the laws of physics and the nature
> >>> of existence.
> >>>
> >>> It is crucial to highlight that these ideas are highly speculative and
> >>> fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry. The concept of the
> >>> multiverse itself remains hypothetical and lacks empirical evidence at
> >>> present.
> >>>
> >>> While the multiverse hypothesis has gained attention in recent years
> >>> due to its potential implications for cosmology and fundamental
> >>> physics, it is still an area of active research with many unanswered
> >>> questions. Scientists are currently exploring various theoretical
> >>> frameworks such as string theory, inflationary cosmology, and quantum
> >>> mechanics to better understand the possibility of a multiverse.
> >>>
> >>> In conclusion, while the concept of the multiverse opens up intriguing
> >>> possibilities for different forms of existence beyond death, it is
> >>> important to approach these ideas with caution. The multiverse remains
> >>> a speculative concept without empirical evidence, and any claims about
> >>> the fate of human consciousness after death in other universes are
> >>> purely speculative and fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry.
> >>> ----------------------
> >>>
> >>> Sounds reasonable to me.  :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BillK
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