[ExI] teachers

[Keith Henson]

n Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 2:11 PM efc--- via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> Wouldn't that just be a waste of money if the multiverse theory is true?

There is a long list of things that might make cryonics a waste of
money.  But this one has never made any list I know about.

Keith

> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023, Keith Henson via extropy-chat wrote:
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> > If you are serious about living a long time, sign up for cryonics.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 11:42 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat
> > <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 1:09 PM BillK via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 at 17:46, efc--- via extropy-chat
> >>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Thank you Jason. It would be fun if there were any passionate people on
> >>> > the list who subscribe to the other interpretations as well. I'm sure that
> >>> > that conversation would be much more stimulating, than the one between you
> >>> > and an agnostic. ;)
> >>> >
> >>> > Best regards, Daniel
> >>> >_______________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I asked a passing AI -
> >>> 'Does the multiverse imply that humans after death live on in another universe?'
> >>>
> >>> The AI considered for a few seconds, looked rather shocked at the
> >>> question and replied -
> >>>
> >>> The concept of the multiverse is a theoretical framework that suggests
> >>> the existence of multiple universes, each with its own set of physical
> >>> laws, constants, and initial conditions. While the idea of the
> >>> multiverse has gained popularity in scientific and philosophical
> >>> discussions, it is important to note that it remains a speculative
> >>> concept without empirical evidence.
> >>
> >>
> >> I would say it is at present, the default theory in many domains of science:
> >>
> >> Particle physics: string theory implies a landscape of many possibile universes ruled by different possible equations allowed under string theory.
> >>
> >> Quantum mechanics: all interpretations of QM are multiverse theories, CI just says all but one of the other universes disappear when we look at them, and Bohm just says that the people in the other universes not guided by the pilot wave are zombies (not conscious), so we don't have to worry about them.
> >>
> >> Cosmology: inflation is the default explanation of the big bang, we have empirical evidence for it, and it also implies an infinity of universes. Also, the standard model of cosmology assumes a flat (infinite) space, which implies an infinity of copies of both Earth and yourself.
> >>
> >> Fine-tuning: At present, the only scientific explanation for all the fine tuning coincidences is a multiverse (the other possible answer being intelligent design)
> >>
> >> Mathematics: most mathematicians are platonists (mathematical realists), if all possible mathematical structures exist, some of them will be like our universe, and will contain life and self aware substitutes, this is Tegmark's level 4 multiverse.
> >>
> >>
> >> So you might say these are speculative (what in science isn't?), but it's worth pointing out that the idea of a multiverse is also the mainstream, default, or only theory we have in many fields.
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In the context of the multiverse, there are various interpretations
> >>> and theories regarding what happens to humans after death. However, it
> >>> is crucial to emphasize that these ideas are purely speculative and
> >>> not supported by scientific evidence.
> >>>
> >>> One interpretation suggests that if the multiverse exists, there could
> >>> be universes where life continues after death in some form. This idea
> >>> stems from the notion that if there are infinite universes, then every
> >>> possible outcome and variation would occur somewhere within this vast
> >>> cosmic landscape. Therefore, proponents argue that there might be
> >>> universes where consciousness or some form of existence persists
> >>> beyond physical death.
> >>>
> >>> However, it is important to recognize that this interpretation relies
> >>> on several assumptions and speculative reasoning. Firstly, it assumes
> >>> that consciousness can exist independently of a physical body, which
> >>> is a topic of ongoing debate within philosophy and neuroscience.
> >>> Secondly, it assumes that the multiverse exists and operates in a way
> >>> that allows for such variations in the laws of physics and the nature
> >>> of existence.
> >>>
> >>> It is crucial to highlight that these ideas are highly speculative and
> >>> fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry. The concept of the
> >>> multiverse itself remains hypothetical and lacks empirical evidence at
> >>> present.
> >>>
> >>> While the multiverse hypothesis has gained attention in recent years
> >>> due to its potential implications for cosmology and fundamental
> >>> physics, it is still an area of active research with many unanswered
> >>> questions. Scientists are currently exploring various theoretical
> >>> frameworks such as string theory, inflationary cosmology, and quantum
> >>> mechanics to better understand the possibility of a multiverse.
> >>>
> >>> In conclusion, while the concept of the multiverse opens up intriguing
> >>> possibilities for different forms of existence beyond death, it is
> >>> important to approach these ideas with caution. The multiverse remains
> >>> a speculative concept without empirical evidence, and any claims about
> >>> the fate of human consciousness after death in other universes are
> >>> purely speculative and fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry.
> >>> ----------------------
> >>>
> >>> Sounds reasonable to me.  :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BillK
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