[ExI] teachers

[Adrian Tymes]

On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 6:22 PM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 2023-08-27 09:33, efc--- via extropy-chat wrote:
> > But what about superdeterminism?
> >
> > Wouldn't that also be one of the better "candidates" even though it
> > goes
> > against our intuition?
>
> Not at all. It would mean that quantum mechanics (the most accurate
> scientific theory to date) is completely wrong. Superdeterminism would
> mean that all agency, choice, chance, luck, and randomness is an
> illusion.


Not so much.  Only such things when considered purely within the universe.

But...what, or who, set up the initial conditions?  And if they set us up,
are they not "us" - the ones who are making decisions - in a sense?
Particularly if this was multiple agents, each one far from omniscient.

Also, while superdeterminism informs the states of individual particles
that are separate from others, are there truly random (or, at least,
unpredictable) things within superdeterminism, such as the exact timing of
atomic decay?

Granted, this is sheer speculation.  But there do exist models of
superdeterminism wherein choices and free will continue to exist.


> It would literally mean that time is entirely scripted from
> beginning to end with the bizarre property that the characters in the
> script are forced to both run experiments to test if the world is
> scripted and every experiment forces them to reach the conclusion that
> the world is random and there is no script.
>

Just like a well-designed simulation, where there is no "hack" or "glitch"
letting the simulated folks break out or even know  they are in a
simulation.
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