[ExI] teachers

[Adrian Tymes]

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 12:58 AM efc--- via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Which interpretation do you subscribe to, or find most likely?
>

A version of superdeterminism.  The objections to it seem to be mostly of
distaste, not any actual disproof other than via moral or subjective
qualities.  (Such as, "Obviously we have free will, and superdeterminism
says there's no free will," which has problems with both the claim of an
undefined "free will" and that superdeterminism is necessarily opposed to
it.)  These do not constitute actual disproof when it comes to objective
reality.

It is possible there are actual scientific objections to it, but if so
they've gotten lost in the noise.

As to the objection that it denies free will, agency, choice, et al - that
is only true if one assumes that the agent making decisions must
necessarily be fully contained in the superdetermined universe.  "Souls"
are supernatural and unfalsifiable, beyond the realm of science - but if
the notion is being brought in as an objection anyway, then it suffices to
construct a possible model wherein both superdeterminism and choices made
by individuals exist at the same time in the same universe.  There exist
such models, therefore the objection about free will does not preclude
superdeterminism, even aside from the supernatural angle.
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