[ExI] teachers

[Adrian Tymes]

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 3:08 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 6:02 PM Jason Resch <jasonresch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 5:32 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 1:59 PM Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 1:47 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
>>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you at least understand why I might believe superdeterminism
>>>>> implies a malicious, adversarial, conspiratorial process?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes.  However, I believe that attributing such motives and malice to
>>>> physics is incorrect, even in this case.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm...on review, this might have been a bit too curt.  Some examples,
>>> then:
>>>
>>> "Why can't I accelerate past the speed of light?  This 'relativity'
>>> nonsense is physics conspiring against me!"
>>>
>>> "Why can't I have a perpetual motion machine?  Entropy is a conspiracy
>>> against me!"
>>>
>>> "Why can't I know in advance how long a computation will take and if it
>>> will ever complete?  Every time I try, something conspires against me!"
>>>
>>> I believe that claims that superdeterminism is a malicious, adversarial,
>>> conspiratorial process are similarly incorrect.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I think you are still missing something. These aren't comparable
>> situations.
>>
>
> I should elaborate:
>
> If you understood the unique strangeness of superdeterminism, I would
> expect you to say something along the lines of:
>
> "Yes I can see why you might think nature is conspiring to always fool us,
> however it is not for the reason X"
>

It is not, as it is not - so far as we can tell - a sentient entity capable
of conspiring.
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