[ExI] teachers

Jason Resch jasonresch at gmail.com
Wed Aug 30 17:16:26 UTC 2023


On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:09 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> It is because of that (nuclei holding together against an enormous
> repulsive force in the positive particles) that physicists discovered
> quantum mechanics.  Cool!
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> >…I thought it was Planck investigating black body radiation and Einstein
> explaining the photoelectric effect in terms of photons. What result are
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> Ja, that was the particle/wave dual nature of light.  Even before that was
> worked out, the physics community understood they had some big problems
> with the standard model of the atom.  Mesons came to the rescue, but only
> if we resort to a weird explanation for how they came about.
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> Fun aside: when I was in high school physics, they avoided talking about
> why nuclei didn’t fly apart.  In my tragically misguided teenage mind, I
> had to theorize that at some sufficiently small scale, gravity does somehow
> overpower the electromagnetic force.
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Don't be too hard on yourself. It's now believed that sufficiently high
energy protons slamming into each other can create micro black holes, where
gravity does win out and hold the protons together.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole

So you were on to something.


Since it would retain it's charge, perhaps such a micro black hole could
hold a pair of electrons and behave chemically like a helium atom?


But I didn’t understand why, nor did I understand what scale was necessary
> to cause that to happen.  I was most pleased, overjoyed even, giddy, when I
> learned there was this other force that holds nuclei together.
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> High school friends asked what was the big Chessie cat grin about.  I
> explained it was about…
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> that force put me at the top of the world…
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> (I musically explained, breaking out into the then-popular Carpenters
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> I developed a reputation for being the weirdest cat they ever saw.  Oh it
> was so worth it, for that was a happy day for me.
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Jason

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