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[Will Steinberg]

This is a bad argument without numbers, and numbers don't even tell the
full story, tbh.

Wearing a helmet in the car would be safer too.  But we don't because 1)
the marginal safety rate is too small and 2) it's not worth the
authoritarian nature of forcing everyone to wear a helmet.

Not everything that increases safety should be done.  The argument here is
that the vax isn't effective enough, AND that, given that fact, it's not
worth restricting freedom for.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 1:20 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 1:00 AM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 12:31 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't change the fact that the vaccine doesn't make you infectious,
>>>
>>
>> ### The mRNA vaccine fails to reduce your all cause mortality. Knowing
>> this, would you still opt to take it? If it can't save your life, what for?
>>
>
> It isn't about reducing all causes, just one cause - and it does reduce
> mortality from COVID.
>
> Seatbelts don't reduce all causes, just fatalities from car crashes.  I
> still wear seat belts.
>
>
>> and cuts down on your tendency to spread the virus if you get infected.
>>>
>>
>> ### No change in viral spread proven after vaccination. And why would you
>> want to reduce the spread anyway? You can't eliminate the virus.
>>
>
> That's what  they said about polio.  And measles.  And too many others to
> quickly list.
>
>
>> Also doesn't change the fact that never getting infected in the first
>>> place gives you better odds of a long, healthy life than attempting to
>>> survive an infection - especially, than deliberately getting infected.
>>>
>>
>> ### Never getting infected, as can be achieved through a lifelong
>> lockdown in complete isolation from the rest of humanity
>>
>
> Or as can be achieved by other methods.  Again see polio, measles, and
> other examples history offers.
>
> I reject your fearmongering and choose to live in reality.
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