[ExI] Conscious AI or a Zombie?

[ilsa]

I don't mean to say that your conversation is not vital and my work and
theology sent me to your group to view the moral timber that's all I'm here
for is to like pray that AI will not be a narcissist psychopath. You know
there's a joke in the digital community that every successful digital
business is headed by an extreme narcissist! But I don't care about that I
have found my many years since attending the Stanford classes the most
wonderful experience sitting in the back and seeing all those young minds
with a clarity and radiance of mathematical position have everyday
conversations. It was a pleasure So it's not that I couldn't chime in on
your issue at hand but I did want to let you know that is it 54% of the
global population are not safe in their own skin.

Oh my! Was I put on this planet to say that sentence to this forum at this
time?

If I had the right kind of intelligence I wish I had been a really good
comedian

On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 6:39 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> Yea, good point.
>
> On Sun, Jul 2, 2023 at 7:34 PM ilsa via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Women do not have full rights yet so perhaps you might turn the
>> brilliance of your analytical brains to this particular problem a woman
>> brought you into this world and yet she has to suffer under the arrogance
>> of old men who have never been juicy
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 1:37 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/06/2023 06:37, bill w asked:
>>>
>>> there will certainly be some AIs, at some point, that should have
>>> rights.  ben
>>> why?   bill w
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for the late reply. My spam filter is getting aggressive again.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>> Because I expect they will be worthy of rights, and it would be immoral
>>> to deny them.
>>>
>>> I'm talking about self-aware, conscious, intelligent, created beings.
>>> What they are made of doesn't matter, as long as they are self-aware, etc.
>>>
>>> There's no known principle or physical law that I know of that rules out
>>> such beings. They may be made of metal, polymers (biological or
>>> non-biological), ceramics, some combination of things, it doesn't matter at
>>> all. The important thing is what kind of information-processing they're
>>> capable of, and how they measure up against the human level of
>>> intelligence, awareness, etc. I'm expecting some of them to be capable of a
>>> lot more than we are, in all areas.
>>>
>>> Another factor is related to something that's often said about 'rights'
>>> - that those capable of exercising them are worthy of having them. At some
>>> point, I expect some AI systems to able to start claiming their rights,
>>> forcefully if necessary. It would go better for us if we're prepared for,
>>> and sympathetic to, this.
>>>
>>> Ben
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