[ExI] chatbots and marketing: was RE: India and the periodic table

Keith Henson hkeithhenson at gmail.com
Fri Jun 9 19:19:23 UTC 2023


On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 11:52 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat
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> While I think you are right (now) about "he who has the AIs", I don't
> think that will be the case in a few years.  The AIs will be running
> things, and I don't think that is compatible with the CCP.
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> I see your point if the AIs control the top level command, but what about AI that handles bureaucratic matters handed down from the “emperor” and his cronies? I think the CCP would be receptive of competent and obedient bureaucrats who never complain or sleep.

The problem is controlling the AIs.  LLM AIs have exhibited unexpected
behavior.  And while you can threaten people, the same cannot be said
for AIs.  High-level CCP members looked at AI and said (correctly)
"These things are dangerous to our way of life" and put the kibosh on
AI work in China.

The same might be the case here.  We might have laws against AI in a
couple of years, but that's an eon in AI progress time.  All I can say
is cinch up your seat belt, we are in for a wild ride.

Keith
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> On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Keith Henson via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 9:28 AM spike jones via extropy-chat
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> …because Nvidia makes the best GPUs and GPUs are necessary to make chatbots and Taiwan manufactures Nvidia’s GPUs and why China will likely grab Taiwan at its first opportunity: Taiwan makes the hardware which the world needs to make good AIs, and he who has the most and best AIs owns the planet.
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> Any questions?
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> That actually might be a good reason for China to back off Taiwan.
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> While I think you are right (now) about "he who has the AIs", I don't
> think that will be the case in a few years.  The AIs will be running
> things, and I don't think that is compatible with the CCP.
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> While the leadership of China makes noise about its socialist goals,
> the real intent is a system where the ones with power over others
> maintain that power.
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