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[efc at swisscows.email]

Hello Brent,

On Sat, 17 Jun 2023, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:25 PM efc--- via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>       On Thu, 15 Jun 2023, Gadersd via extropy-chat wrote:
>       >> ask about why we want to live a long time.
>       >
>       > That seems an odd thing to have to explain. Life is good, no?
>
>       I always find these immortality discussions very strange. For me, it is
>       not about immortality per se, but about choice. Being able to decide
>       yourself when you had enough.
> 
> Being about choice is a good point.  But if that is the only point, are you saying that morality is relative, or that there is no
> morality, right or wrong, good or bad... choice?

Good question! On the surface, I am all about freedom and free informed
consent and very libertarian.

On a deeper level, which I find more interesting, I think the simplest
explanation that ultimately, there are no morals. They are created when
several self-conscious, human beings meet reality.

I do not have a hard position on this, so I welcome a vigorous debate
here to inspire me! =)

> Seems to me choosing to end things is necessarily a bad/wrong/mistaken... choice.

Why? It is your life, and given the circumstances, why should you not be
allowed to choose to end it if you so want and are of a sound and
healthy mind?

> Seems to me, survival is always, necessarily, better than not surviving.  That is why evolution must progress in all sufficiently
> complex worlds?

I can imagine many situations where I would probably choose to end my
life. So I do not think, for me, that survival trumps everything,
everytime.

Best regards, 
Daniel