[ExI] Conscious AI or a Zombie?

[William Flynn Wallace]

Yes, I am a biological machine and so is an amoeba.   bill w

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:59 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> If all of this is moving in the direction of giving human rights to
> machines, I think it's wrong.
>
>
> Are you not a biological machine?
>
> On Jun 21, 2023, at 10:17 AM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> If all of this is moving in the direction of giving human rights to
> machines, I think it's wrong.   bill w
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 8:59 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> There is nothing wrong with abusing a zombie but abusing a sentient
>> creature is something generally considered wrong. If there is an animal or
>> machine that acts as if it were conscious and we don’t have a way to
>> distinguish acting from the real thing then we had better treat such
>> entities as if they were conscious.
>>
>> > On Jun 21, 2023, at 7:21 AM, BillK via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > How could we distinguish conscious AI from its zombie equivalent?
>> > The idea that consciousness emerges naturally alongside intelligence
>> > could be an anthropocentric distortion.
>> > June 20, 2023   Anil Seth
>> >
>> > <https://bigthink.com/the-future/intelligence-conscious-ai/>
>> >
>> > Quotes:
>> > From the 16th-century golem to the replicants in Blade Runner, stories
>> > of sentient human-like creatures tend to end in philosophical and
>> > existential chaos.
>> > The rapid rise of AI has lent fresh urgency to questions about machine
>> > consciousness.
>> > It is a mistake to assume that intelligence — at least in advanced
>> > forms — is either necessary or sufficient for consciousness.
>> >
>> > Although intelligence offers a rich menu of ramified conscious states
>> > for conscious organisms, it is a mistake to assume that intelligence —
>> > at least in advanced forms — is either necessary or sufficient for
>> > consciousness. If we persist in assuming that consciousness is
>> > intrinsically tied to intelligence, we may be too eager to attribute
>> > consciousness to artificial systems that appear to be intelligent, and
>> > too quick to deny it to other systems — such as other animals — that
>> > fail to match up to our questionable human standards of cognitive
>> > competence.
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>> > BillK
>> >
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