[ExI] What is Consciousness?

[William Flynn Wallace]

I think you mean interpretations of sensations.  bill w

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 12:34 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
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>> Can anyone give a better (non circular) definition of a quality?
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>> A quality is a particular configuration of particle interactions. We do
>> not know which configuration of particle interactions corresponds to your
>> perception of red because that must be experimentally determined.
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> Close, but  No, this is still circular.  "perception" is an abstracting
> process that requires senses, like eyes or ears.  It is a long chain of
> causal physical properties, none of which need to be 'redness' but all can
> be interpreted as representing 'redness' with a dictionary.  Perceptions
> are just interpretations of interpretations, none of which define what
> redness means.
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> All 3 of these systems can perceive 'red'.  But only the first to know
> what redness is like (the second one's redness is like your greenness.)
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> For each point of conscious knowledge on the surface of that strawberry,
> the first one has  something in its brain that has a redness quality.  The
> second one has the same, the difference is, each point has something that
> has your greenness quality.  The 3rd one has a bunch of pixel
> representations, each of which is represented by something abstract, like
> the word 'red'.
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> You don't 'perceive' redness, you directly apprehend it as a quality of
> your computationally bound conscious  knowledge.  A quality is a physical
> property of which conscious experience is composed.  Redness is the final
> result of perception.
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