[ExI] What is Consciousness?

[Gadersd]

> Close, but  No, this is still circular.  "perception" is an abstracting process that requires senses, like eyes or ears.

The process is the experience.

> On Mar 25, 2023, at 1:32 PM, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 9:00 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
>> Can anyone give a better (non circular) definition of a quality?
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> A quality is a particular configuration of particle interactions. We do not know which configuration of particle interactions corresponds to your perception of red because that must be experimentally determined.
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> Close, but  No, this is still circular.  "perception" is an abstracting process that requires senses, like eyes or ears.  It is a long chain of causal physical properties, none of which need to be 'redness' but all can be interpreted as representing 'redness' with a dictionary.  Perceptions are just interpretations of interpretations, none of which define what redness means.
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> All 3 of these systems can perceive 'red'.  But only the first to know what redness is like (the second one's redness is like your greenness.)
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> For each point of conscious knowledge on the surface of that strawberry, the first one has  something in its brain that has a redness quality.  The second one has the same, the difference is, each point has something that has your greenness quality.  The 3rd one has a bunch of pixel representations, each of which is represented by something abstract, like the word 'red'.
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> You don't 'perceive' redness, you directly apprehend it as a quality of your computationally bound conscious  knowledge.  A quality is a physical property of which conscious experience is composed.  Redness is the final result of perception.
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