[extropy-chat] FSP: Killington Votes to Secede

Adrian Tymes wingcat at pacbell.net
Wed Mar 3 21:02:06 UTC 2004


--- Technotranscendence <neptune at superlink.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:42 PM Adrian Tymes
> wingcat at pacbell.net
> wrote:
> >> I know this is in Vermont, but I wonder about
> >> similar legal processes in
> >> other states of the US.  It might be yet another
> way
> >> to alter the system...
> >
> > I can tell you flat out it couldn't succeed in
> > California.
> 
> There is a name for this legal impossibility in
> California.  I believe
> it's called the San Fernando Valley, which is trying
> to seceded
> legally.:)

I never said some couldn't try.  Nor even that they
might end up with a semi-autonomous arrangement that
might prove good enough.  Just that they won't fully
succeed in secession.  ^_-

> I suspect even when the State government has
> "soverignity" over all
> smaller governmental units, there are ways to secede
> within the
> jurisdiction of the State government.  This is how
> many municipalities
> break away from others, no?

In those cases, the higher power (California state, in
the case) gives its approval.  The federal government
of the United States has stated that it would not
support the breakup of a state.  (Exceptions in cases
like Texas, which had in the contract that brought it
into the US a clause that let it break up at a later
date if it chooses to do so.  There might possibly be
arguments for something like this in the original 13
colonies, or maybe some states added soon thereafter,
but not by the time of California's incorporation.)



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