[extropy-chat] Aw Nuts! Bush Wins...

Samantha Atkins sjatkins at gmail.com
Wed Nov 3 19:52:30 UTC 2004


"Moral issues"?  Well yes, denying the same rights others enjoy to a
minority in matters of relationship and recognition of relationship is
a "moral issue".  It is clearly evil.

Stem cell research though?  On what basis?  Only the considerably
misinformed believe it has anything to do with abortion which is
claimed as a "moral issue".

When looking at the poll results it helps, along with some fitting
intoxicant or other, to remember that the vast majority of the people
are not far from an IQ of 100.   On top of that they have been
successfully taught not to think.

Also, Kerry never stood for a big difference in most of the matters of
primary non-"moral" concern.   The real message to the Shrub should be
that the people largely think he is doing a terrible job if even an
opponent who did not present a very clear difference did this well
against him.   But that is not the message he will trumpet to the
country.

Back to my bitters. 

-s

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 19:30:32 +0000, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 11:05:47 -0800 (PST), Mike Lorrey wrote:
> >
> > I'm not saying you are wrong, but I think you wrongly assumed that Bush
> > was the only power-hungry or the most power-hungry individual in the
> > equation here.
> >
> 
> The BBC website has a good analysis of why Bush won:
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3973197.stm>
> 
> Selection of quotes from the article:-
> 
> Religion - rather than class, ethnic origin or education - has become
> the key determinant of voting in the 2004 presidential race.
> And moral issues were more important for voters than Iraq, the war on
> terrorism, or the economy.
> Not surprisingly, four out of five voters who cited moral values as
> their key issue voted for President Bush - as did the same proportion
> of those who cited terrorism.
> In contrast, those most concerned about the economy voted four to one
> for Senator Kerry.
> 
> What has divided voters in this election, however, are views on the
> Iraq war, and on new moral issues like stem cell research and same-sex
> marriage.
> Those against gay marriage, for example, voted strongly for Mr Bush,
> as did those opposed to abortion.
> And the electorate divided sharply over Iraq, with the 47%
> disapproving of the decision to go to war strongly backing Senator
> Kerry.
> 
> Two-thirds of voters who attend religious services regularly (once a
> week or more) backed President Bush rather than Senator Kerry - and
> they make up 40% of the electorate.
> Those who never attend services, in contrast, backed the Democrats by
> the same margin - but they make up only 15% of the electorate.
> The ability of the Republican party to mobilise its religious base
> could prove to be the decisive factor.
> 
> End quotes.
> 
> BillK
> 
> 
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