[extropy-chat] Fear of flying

[Mike Lorrey]

What you should have read was "wing". One wing per plane shorn off at
the root. It would be an interesting experiment in a wind tunnel to see
if an F-15 could fly without both wings. The intakes, being
hydraulically manipulable up and down, should provide some control, and
of course you have two engines that are independently throttlable, so
you should have some control in all three axes between them. The wings
primarily provide lift for maneuvering and for whatever fuel and
weapons are carried on them, so they should be somewhat redundant to an
aircraft in flight with 50% of its lift remaining in the fuselage, much
like a lifting body.

--- "kevinfreels.com" <kevin at kevinfreels.com> wrote:

> I can see that. What I read was "wings ripped off at the root" which
> to me
> meant that there was no source of lift except for the fuselage which
> has no
> control surfaces.
> 
> As for the Airbus, I think there were two different incidents. That
> jet
> without a rudder still leaves the CP behind the CG. It is designed
> that way.
> Of course, it was never designed to be flown without the tail
> entirely which
> happened in a separate incident.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of kevinfreels.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 4:54 PM
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> > >
> > > I somehow doubt that a jet with wings ripped off at the root
> would be
> able
> > > manage controlled flight back to base...
> >
> > Mike do you have a photo of that plane?  It somehow made it
> > back with durn near most of one wing gone.  Hell if I know
> > how he managed to keep it airborne.  That was a pilot with
> > the right stuff.
> >
> >
> > > As for the French plane, those jets
> > > barely even need a rudder. It's only function is to assist
> landing in a
> > > crosswind...
> >
> >
> > That plane lost more than the rudder.  It lost the
> > vertical stabilizer, which moved the center of pressure
> > forward of the GC, which made it unflyable, completely
> > uncontrollable.
> >
> > spike
> >
> >
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Mike Lorrey
Vice-Chair, 2nd District, Libertarian Party of NH
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
Blog: http://intlib.blogspot.com

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