[extropy-chat] Atheism in Decline

[Dirk Bruere]

Emlyn wrote:

>>>More likely, you (or someone you were playing with) was moving the
>>>planchette, consciously or unconsciously.
>>>
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>>>
>>*OF COURSE IT GETS MOVED UNCONSCIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* -
>>that's the whole point.
>>It's called the ideomotor response.
>>And how likely is it that in *every* game of Ouija ever played someone
>>was *always* cheating?
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>>>Your subconscious does not an "emergent phenomenon" deity make.
>>>
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>>>
>>Mine doesn't - on its own.
>>But it does when many are involved in a cooperative enterprise.
>>
>>--
>>Dirk
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>
>This is starting to become more interesting, Dirk. I think the
>religious rhetoric that you usually use, with the caveats of it being
>metaphor, have made it hard to grasp what you are saying. The above,
>however, seems to be a very straightforward statement about a belief
>that groups of minds (literally) create epiphenomenal consciousnesses
>which can then be physicially interacted with, via media such as
>Ouija. Care to expound on it a little more? Also, if Damien is out
>there reading this, does any of your research into psi phenomenon
>overlap with this contention of Dirk's?
>
>  
>
OK - at the risk of 'going over the limit' for posts... but I'll be 
off-list for several days next week so I'm 'borrowing a bit' on my quota...

The overlap is explored in an essay on my site which refers to an 
experiment carried out 30yrs ago.
http://www.neopax.com/asatru/pk/index.html

I'm currently in the process of writing a far more detailed analysis and 
exposition of such group epiphenomena but that will not be completed for 
some time.

-- 
Dirk

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