Spirits (was RE: [extropy-chat] Qualia Bet.)
Dirk Bruere
dirk.bruere at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 23:04:33 UTC 2005
On 11/28/05, Brent Allsop <allsop at extropy.org> wrote:
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> Robin Hanson,
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> > Whatever additional stuff you find that correlates with phenomenal
> > properties,
> > how will you know that *that* is qualia? We can already look at brains
> > and
> > see that their activity correlates with phenomenal properties. How will
> > this
> > new stuff be different, so that we have more confidence that it is
> qualia?
> > Seems to me that it is turtles all the way down.
>
> When, in your field of vision you see a patch of red, next to a patch of
> green, next to a patch of a new phenomenal property that you have never
> experienced before (say a tetrachromat is effing to you who is a normal
> trichromat) you will know you are effing. Even if it is turtles all the
> way
> down (yea right!) who will care? Right?
>
>
I don't think that is a viable answer.
LSD can provide access (?) to unique qualia never before experienced.
That does not mean that it embodies those qualia.
Dirk
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