[extropy-chat] Qualia Bet.

Dirk Bruere dirk.bruere at gmail.com
Tue Nov 29 23:37:00 UTC 2005


On 11/29/05, Brent Allsop <allsop at extropy.org> wrote:
>
>
> > You've been wrongly criticized for saying these properties are
> non-causal.
>
> Yes, and looking back I see some of the things I've said that have lead to
> this.  I hope I've learned my lesson.
>
> > What you really mean is that direct knowledge of phenomenal properties
> > (the actual first-hand experience of qualia) cannot be obtained via
> > abstract science about causes and effects.
>
> Yes, this is a great way of putting it.  I'll have to try to learn from
> your
> example and use more of these words in this way more often.
>
> Thanks!  It's very nice - for a change - not to be the only one really
> arguing for this position!
>

Actually, one might consider Free Will (if it exists) to be non causal if
there are feedback loops from the future.

Dirk
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