[extropy-chat] Extropy and libertarianism

[Dirk Bruere]

On 9/10/05, Natasha Vita-More <natasha at natasha.cc> wrote:
> 
> Dirk,
> 
> I think it would be best if you respected the communications already sent 
> to this list and published elsewhere regarding Extropy Institute.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Natasha Vita-More


So, what are you saying?
That in your *opinion* I should not air *my* opinions concerning ExI on the 
ExI list?
Or is that an order?

Dirk


At 06:53 AM 9/10/2005, you wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/8/05, *Max More* <max at maxmore.com> wrote: 
>  Clearly
> the Principles of Extropy are highly *compatible* with a libertarian
> view of politics -- more so than with any other identifiable 
> viewpoint that I know of. It doesn't follow that they are
> *restricted* to only that one, exact political philosophy. A dogmatic
> view of political and economic systems would be incompatible with the
> principles of rational thinking and perpetual progress. 
> 
> As I've said many times, the Principles are *not* compatible with
> socialism, but do not rule out *possible* exceptions to strict
> libertarian answers. The ultimate goal is not adherence to
> libertarian doctrine, but to advancing our lives in *all* the ways 
> described in the Principles. As far as I'm concerned, that *might*
> mean, for example, some government funding of basic research. And it
> might not -- I'm not at all sure on this issue at the moment. It
> *might* mean some laws limiting private property rights -- such as 
> might be needed to conduct inspections of research labs working with
> extremely dangerous materials (nanostuff, AI, whatever).
> 
>  
> IMO ExI Principles are a matter of *interpretation*, only one such being 
> Uber Libertarianism.
> If this is not so then you can kiss much future membership goodbye.
> 
> As Transhumanism moves from the perceived lunatic fringe populated by 
> fanatical True Believers into the cultural mainstream populated by people a 
> lot less committed to any single political POV this is going to be even more 
> apparent. Trying to maintain ideological purity is a recipe for internicene 
> squabbling, witch hunts and heretic bashing reminiescent of the history of 
> 'pure' Socialism with its petty factions and interminable cry of 
> 'splitter!'. 
> 
> ExI, and its membership, must decide soon if it is going to be a bastion 
> of purity or whether it is going to set itself up to attract mainstream 
> support. We certainly know what the WTA has decided.
> 
> Dirk
> 
> 
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>  Natasha <http://www.natasha.cc/>Vita-More <http://www.natasha.cc/> Cultural 
> Strategist, Designer Studies of the Future, University of Houston President, 
> Extropy Institute <http://www.extropy.org/> Founder, Transhumanist Arts & 
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