[extropy-chat] Nuke the Great Satan

[kevinfreels.com]

I'm all for allowing people into the country. I would just assume let anyone
in who wants in as long as they checkout and they are searched. I fully
believe that people coming to the country is a great benefit. Every time
they take a job, they become a consumer and a producer and another job is
created. I don;t buy that garbage that people preach about "jobs being taken
up by foreigners".

But that's not what I am talking about. I am not trying to keep people out.
I just want them to come in a controlled manner through a door. Those who
attempt to come in through the cracks are a threat to national security and
should be dealt with as such.

Let me ask you this. If the Chinese military decided 10 years ago to smuggle
soldiers in across the border. Suppose they equalled half of the 1500 per
day that come into the US. How many Chinese soldiers would be here now?

How about a wall and a mine field? Then if they blow up, it's their own
fault?




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Samantha Atkins" <sjatkins at mac.com>
To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Nuke the Great Satan


> crossing a border illegally = murder?  If we kept all illegal aliens
> out the economies of several states would probably be threatened.  A
> lot of cheap onsite labor would no longer be available.   Would it be
> better to regularize the process?  Sure.   But shooting people isn't
> the way to get there.
>
> - s
> On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:12 AM, kevinfreels.com wrote:
>
> > So you don;t see the difference between jaywalking and illegally
> > crossing a
> > sovereign country's border?
> > It's all the same? A law is a law is a law? Shoplifting = murder?
> > Are you proposing that by breaking a law to enter a country a
> > person is
> > therefore protected by the laws of that country?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Medina" <analyticphilosophy at gmail.com>
> > To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Nuke the Great Satan
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 9/19/05, kevinfreels.com <kevin at kevinfreels.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is exactly why we need to be shooting people as they enter the
> >>>
> > country
> >
> >>> illegally. I know it doesn;t seem very extropian, but if people were
> >>>
> > being
> >
> >>> shot, I doubt as many would be trying to cross. There's legal
> >>> ways into
> >>>
> > this
> >
> >>> country.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Let's shoot people for speeding and jaywalking. Let's chop off the
> >> hands of shoplifters, too. Let's stone queers in the public square.
> >> There are legal ways to drive and cross streets and acquire goods and
> >> get married, right?
> >>
> >> And I know it doesn't seem very extropian, but let's set the ignorant
> >> on fire, too. If the ignorant were burned at the stake, I doubt as
> >> many suggestions like this one would be passed around.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Jeff Medina
> >> http://www.painfullyclear.com/
> >>
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