[extropy-chat] Nuke the Great Satan

kevinfreels.com kevin at kevinfreels.com
Tue Sep 20 01:05:08 UTC 2005


I am serious.
Granted, it's not practical considering the system as it now sits. But that
system needs to change as well. As I said, I think everyone who wants in
should be allowed in legally. No matter how many. If you can get here, you
can stay. You can become a citizen by simply wanting to.
But you come through the front door.
That's all I am saying.
Are you trying to state that you crawled across the border and snuck into
the country without any government knowledge?
Are you also saying that people who cross the border in such a way do not
represent a threat to national security?
I am referring to something totally different form what you are describing.
If you had read my post you would realize that I was not referring to people
who slip through the cracks, but those who use the cracks to get through.
Your situation is one of a failure of a policy which stinks to begin with.
In "my world" you would have just come in through the front door and
registered. No "permission" required. There would have been no need for you
to sneak across a border....unless you intended to do harm.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amara Graps" <amara at amara.com>
To: <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:13 PM
Subject: [extropy-chat] Nuke the Great Satan


> Kevin Freels
> >Those who attempt to come in through the cracks are a threat to
> >national security and should be dealt with as such.
>
> Are you serious?
>
> I'm one of those illegal immigrants, and I have two jobs
> (astrophysics research/space missions at a national Italian
> astrophysics observatory and teaching astronomy at a private
> American university in Rome). For job experience, I have 20 years
> experience in my field and for my educational training, I have a
> physics PhD. I'm illegal because the permit-of-stay policies of
> immigration law in Italy caused the whole system to collapse. So
> then in your pondering of immigration laws, put this in the mix and
> ponder it too. I suggest for your primary data collection to talk to
> the immigrants themselves. And then answer this: at what point are a
> government's policies so stupid that it shoots itself in the foot?
>
> Amara
> -- 
>
> Amara Graps, PhD
> Istituto di Fisica dello Spazio Interplanetario (IFSI)
> Istituto Nazionale di Astrofisica (INAF),
> Adjunct Assistant Professor Astronomy, AUR,
> Roma, ITALIA     Amara.Graps at ifsi.rm.cnr.it
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