[ExI] I don't understand students: help !

Kevin H kevin.l.holmes at gmail.com
Wed Dec 17 17:31:09 UTC 2008

Sounds to me that you need to stop being so nice.  Giving someone a C for a
plagerized paper is just encouraging the practice.

I know there is a lot of pressure in our colleges and universities, but who
is left putting on the pressure for academic standards?


On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:49 PM, giovanni santost
<santostasigio at yahoo.com>wrote:

> What is happening with students ??
> I passed this girl with a C in an Astronomy for non-science majors class.
> She calls me on my cell, demanding a B, saying she will go to the Dean if
> not satisfied.
> She struggled all the semester and she is barely literate. She had problems
> in understanding 1.6 *10 =16. Seriously.
> I was trying to be nice and I passed her with a decent grade.
> When I went back and I looked more carefully at her assignment I discovered
> that on 119 lines of her final paper worth 15 % of her grade 115 lines were
> copied from the internet word by word.
> The other 4 didn't make sense and they were full of grammatical errors.
> She did quote 105 lines but the remaining 14, that she claimed to be her
> own (how somebody can think to write a paper with about 10 % being their
> "own work "is another wonder of the Universe) are also word by word  copied
> but not quoted.
> She is fighting with me claiming I never mentioned they could not paste and
> copy to do their semester project and that she didn't do anything wrong. She
> want to go and debate this with my superiors.
> What is going on in the minds of these students?
> She is not the only one with this sense of the entitlement and reckless
> arrogance.
> --- On *Tue, 12/16/08, Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com>* wrote:
> From: Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [ExI] FakeAlert and Virtumonde
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 10:05 PM
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