[ExI] flds raid, was general repudiation...

[John Grigg]

Rafal wrote:
Since you never answered in the affirmative to my questions about
physical abuse, rape, and incarceration, I assume you actually agree
with me that none of these acts of violence plays a significant role
in maintaining polygamous families in the US.
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Rafal, there is "hard-style" abuse  and then there is "soft-style (but
in its own way just as bad...)" abuse.  In most of these polygamous
communes they don't *need* to beat, lock up or rape the 14 and 15
year-old teenage girls they intend to have as sex partners/mothers,
because these young women have been so powerfully
indoctrinated/socially conditioned to accept their situation as "God's
will."  Yep, the "soft-style" abuse is the way to go (all future cult
leaders take note...)!

you continue:
And here is a point where you are clearly incorrect: The
"conditioning" you are objecting to is not all done by "prominent
men". Of course, everybody in the FLDS communes is participating -
older men, women, granny, grandpa, older sisters, everybody. It is
their way of life, their way of thinking. It is not a situation where
a few lecherous old sleazeballs are keeping everybody else subdued by
force. Of course, the cultists know they can leave but mostly they
don't want to (now perhaps even less so than before, knowing that the
SWAT teams are after them). They believe all their baloney, think they
will go to heaven, nothing really unusual.
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And yes, mom, grandma, dad, uncle joe, aunt mary, etc., do support
this system, but does that make it right? LOL  It is the human
condition to generally support those in powerful positions when you
have been indoctrinated from birth that they have authority direct
from God to tell you what to do (and when to do it).  Please keep in
mind that in a number of these polygamous communities that voicing
disagreement with the "lecherous old sleazeballs" in power could
easily result in losing your job, house, property and even your family
(are you even aware of this fact?)!  The iron grip the leadership has
in these polygamous hierarchies tend to keep the rank and file in line
and their mouths shut....

John Grigg