[ExI] Japan's young turn to Communist Party ...

Eschatoon Magic eschatoon at gmail.com
Mon Oct 20 05:02:13 UTC 2008

I think the differences between _good_, theoretical communism and
_good_, theoretical liberalism are not as big as we usually think. In
the sense that in a good society everyone is free, and everyone has
enough to eat. So a good society integrates the best of liberalism,
and the best of communism.

But in a real liberal system, people will take advantage of the system
for personal gain, and in a real communist system, people will take
advantage of the system for personal gain. I used to know quite well
Eastern Europe before the collapse, and I can tell you that well
connected people have a BMW and a Rolex. Just like here.


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:30 AM, samantha <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
> Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>> 2008/10/20 John Grigg <possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com>:
>>> What the heck is your problem? lol  We said nothing to warrant your
>>> reaction.  I realize the *practice* of Russian and Chinese-style
>>> communism
>>> was/is a far cry from the theory.  I fully respect the right of Japanese
>>> young people to politically agitate for change, even under a communist
>>> banner.  And their brand of communism will be within a democratic society
>>> and not a tyranny.
>>> I agree the world needs a shift toward more humane politics, but I am
>>> concerned that Japan might down the road make too severe a shift toward
>>> socialism and hurt their economy.  Sometimes nations veer from one
>>> extreme
>>> to another.
>> Why do you assume a shift towards socialism will hurt their economy?
>> They've been in recession or near-recession for 20 years while, if
>> anything, becoming more right wing economically. What does that tell
>> you about laissez-faire capitalism?
> Go read "Economics in One Lesson" then you, being very intelligent, can tell
> us. You will also know that what we have enjoyed in the US and what Japan
> has been running is not remotely "laissez-faire capitalism".  Being
> intelligent I am surprised you would even insinuate that it was.   Japan
> tried to finagle the market by government to get out of the results of its
> strong government involvement in the economic previous to its crash in the
> late 80s.
> - samantha
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