[ExI] the octuplets mother and what it bodes for the future

[Dagon Gmail]

So - how sure are you that you don't fail the sociopath, lack of empathy
test?



2009/2/16 John Grigg <possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com>

> Dagon wrote:
> The diversity of genes we have implies that a percentage of people will be
> unable
> to compete in the global marketplace. This is a constant figure - 5% of the
> potential
> job market are not classified as formally disabled (or after a while do
> gain that label
> in most modern democracies, if only by default) and simply cannot be fit in
> to the
> current employability system.
>
> If wellfares are low, these people end up in prison. This is so consistent
> a pattern that
> we can conclude the genetic component transcend free will (no amount of
> threat
> will dissuade this percentage, not even executions) and the state will have
> to find a
> solution to deal with this.
> >>>
>
> A fascinating concept, but I wonder to what extent it is truly genetic as
> compared to family environment (the classic argument)?  I hope you don't
> upset the politically correct among us too much with this theory. lol  I
> have my fingers crossed that Damien did not read this... hee
>
> I tend to think this element of humanity in previous eras was much better
> adapted to living and even thriving.  But our high-tech era of complex
> employment skill sets and highly monitored societies with abundant law
> enforcement is more than many of these people can bear.  I see these
> individuals in my local community and think of them as "people born in the
> wrong time" who feel like refugees from the past.  I admit many of them
> would have ended up in the stocks, a dungeon, a salt mine or the chopping
> block had they lived in another less civilized age and gotten caught for
> their misbehaviour.
>
> you continue:
> A person cut of from an equitable income, or society itself by virtue of
> being stigmatized
> in this manner, tends to become pathological, consumes increasing care,
> often already
> has problems. So giving these people wellfare can make sense, from a
> cost-cutting
> perspective.
> >>>
>
> Very true.
>
> you continued:
> * when a person is clearly unable to contribute more economic value than he
> or she consumes,
> that person is marked for euthanasia
>
> * when a person clear consumes more than he or she produces in economic
> value, that
> person is marked for euthanasia
>
> * when a person consistently uses criminal means to acquire goods,
> euthanasia
>
> * As above, low cost internment in a caged environment, slave labour, tent
> camps etc. I
> think you cannot reduce cost much below 50 unless you can marketize these
> people as
> a resource. Organ harvesting?
>
> * I suggest you look at a slow escalation if you implement harsher methods,
> i.e. what
> other cost cutting measures can you apply? Smokers cost ten to fifty times
> as much as
> they cough up in taxes - hence maybe start making some tough decisions
> regarding
> smokers (drinkers? Child abusing parents?)
>
> * Parents routinely give inherited ailments to parents. I think parents who
> can afford
> genetic screening should be held accountable for the societal impact. At
> the very least
> they should be made to pay.
> >>>
>
> I suspect the "enlightened" Stalins and Hitlers of the 21st century will
> find all such suggestions to be very practical and necessary.
>
> you continue:
> * Sociopathy costs society dearly in human misery. A full 5% of people can
> be diagnosed
> as being psychopaths, and they can and do have high-paying jobs.
> Nevertheless their actions
> have perpetuated a culture of exploitation, dumping, theft, corruption and
> significant human
> tragedy. I am for testing people for sociopathic lack of empathy, and
> forcing these people
> on lifelong psychiatric counseling and making sure they don't enter jobs
> where they can damage
> society or impact other people's lives.
> >>>
>
> A genetic test for sociopathy and laws to enforce the identifying of them
> at birth (or before) would be in my eyes a very good thing.  Special
> treatment programs (and hopefully applied genetic engineering) could
> minimize the damage they do to society.  They are the evil mutants among
> us...
>
> you continue:
> Please let me know what you think on these treatments to address the scum
> that damages
> and exploits society - and make sure you pay less taxes. Because that is a
> cause to fight
> for, at any cost, to make sure you pay less taxes.
> >>>
>
> Ohh....., these people just need a big hug and some compassion.  We must
> raise taxes to help give them a further helping hand!
>
> Dagon, I thought this was one of the better posts I have read in awhile.  :
> )
>
> John
>
>
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