[ExI] CA gay marriage vote/was Re: Iran's plan for their gay population

Jeff Davis jrd1415 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 3 19:31:29 UTC 2009

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM,  <dan_ust at yahoo.com> wrote:

>... as conventional answers go, this looks simplistic.  In some cases, one can ask "cui bono?" regarding particular stances and obtain profitable explanations.  In this case, I'm not sure.  Why not accept, here, at face value, the notion that traditional or religious beliefs played a role* -- rather than rap or "embattled masculinity"?

 I gave a quick -- not much thought given -- answer to spike's
question.  Upon further reflection, I think Dan's right.  In the
privacy of their own culture, non-ghetto African Americans are (my
impression) church going Christian social conservatives re issues
other than racial equality.  Add to that Damien's embattled
masculinity (well not Damien's masculinity, but rather his point re
African American embattled masculinity) and I think spike has his

Best, Jeff Davis

  I believe -- no pun intended:) -- the practical
  thing is usually to change those beliefs that
  cause the most immediate trouble...
                    Daniel Ust

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