[ExI] The Death Toll Imbalance in the Mideast War

John Grigg possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 10 11:40:31 UTC 2009

Stefano wrote:
One wonders how many Japanese casualties a massive invasion of the US
without making use of nukes would have costed... Do you think this would
have justified the vaporisation, of say, San Francisco and San Diego? Just
feel like I'm dealing with Elizabots at this point!  What is it about you
Europeans?  ;  )

> And as for Iraq, they needed regime change...

you responded:
This is the most incredibly blunt affirmation of universal
jurisdiction ever made. If Stalin ever made such a claim with respect to the
US, it would have faced an indignant reaction, and *not* on the basis of the
possible wrongness of his opinion, but rather on the obvious ingerence in
American internal affars.

Well, along those same lines, I am grateful regime change was done to
Germany back in the forties.... lol  And we should have done it earlier than
we did.  I see it this way, if my next door neighbor is beating and raping
his wife and I can hear her cries for help, and there are no police due to a
strike, etc., then I should intervene.  Saddam was definitely such a
neighbor...  You seem to think once someone seizes power in a nation, they
should have that position respected no matter what atrocity they commit.  I
totally disagree.

I wrote:
> And so for you you, Stathis, to actually suggest the Stalin-like regime
> of Iraq had the right to nuke the U.S. since we used nukes on Japan, when
> Japan deserved it, is to show your moral bankruptcy and plain stupidity.

you responded:
What about the bankruptcy of the common courtesy rule of discussing
the merits of one's positions without drawing inferences as to his or
her essential depravity? :-)

Oh, but Stathis is evil for disagreeing with me.  ;- )  Yes, I should have
attacked the message and not the messenger.  Yet I am still very fed up with
these ridiculous comparisons and the level of America bashing I'm
encountering on this list.  There is intelligent and constructive criticism
and then there is what Stathis and others wrote.

John  :  (
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