[ExI] PaleoCRON?

[Eugen Leitl]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:24:39AM +0200, Jones Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> 
> > In case of life-shortening diseases for which CR is a therapy you can
> > of course push it it farther. Or ordinary healthy people capable
> > of hitting 80+ years on autopilot CR offers only marginal cruise
> > assist.
> 
> Ordinary healthy people are hitting 80+ years right now, while we can

My point exactly.

> see that by addressing the big 3 killers, we could boost that on
> average to something north of 100 years. This will not be marginal
> when you hit 80. Just as important are the quality of those additional

I don't want to live 100+ as a slowly failing bipedal primate,
I'm interested in indefinite life extension by way of migrating
to a different substrate. As a realist, I don't expect 10-20 years
will result in any escape velocity technologies, and given the
record track of solid-state hypothermia in people it won't produce
game-changers either. Newborns and yet unborn may or may not fare
better, but all of you reading this will unfortunately have to
grow old and to die (though perhaps not permanently).

> years. CR'd animals well past their pre-CR life expectancy are much
> more vigorous than ad-libbed animals in old age.

I'm familiar with the basics of it. You see the same in supercentenarians.
 
> > The actual problem is that almost no one has the self-discipline
> > to make it happen. I cannot see me add more than 5-10 years to my
> > natural span without running into a serious asceticism control wall.
> > Giving up alcohol for good instead of just rationing it? A cold
> > day in hell.
> 
> You will see people discover more and more reserves of self-discipline
> they never knew they had as the results continue to come in on CR, I

If you have to work in today's economy the amount of self-discipline
left after an average day is very little. 

> expect. And CR does not involve giving up alcohol.

Emulating Uncle Gabby and Drinky Crow will most assuredly be not 
life-prolonging.

What seems to work is a couple glasses of tannate wine daily. 

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