[ExI] Bringing new life to dead matter

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at canonizer.com
Sun May 27 02:03:56 UTC 2012


There seems to already be an emerging expert consensus theory that 
predicts exactly how to define this stuff and how science is about to 
prove such is true - which if such does occur, as being predicted, it 
will obviously prove to everyone that they are right, and what 
consciousness is.

At least there is a clear consensus, till you get down to the difference 
between "Functional Property Dualism" (Chalmers' "subjective" camp where 
a quale like redness is correlated with the right function, whether it 
is neurons or silicon see: http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/88/8) vs 
"Material Property Dualism", more of an "essentialist" camp that 
predicts without the right stuff, in the right state, no redness quale 
is possible.  (see: http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/88/7 )  Obviously 
both of these are very testable theories for which it is only a matter 
of time till they demonstrate which one is THE ONE.

My money is with the consensus and the Materialst view.  What about 
you?  Any other view?

Brent Allsop

On 5/26/2012 5:04 PM, Will Steinberg wrote:
> This guy gets it!
> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Stefano Vaj <stefano.vaj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:stefano.vaj at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     On 26 May 2012 00:09, Will Steinberg <steinberg.will at gmail.com
>     <mailto:steinberg.will at gmail.com>> wrote:
>         Yes, I think consciousness needs redefinition somehow.
>     It need not really be a "subjective" or "essentialist"
>     consciousness definition, OTOH.
>     Let us just say that a universe where an increasing presence
>     exists of entities exhibiting behaviours making it easy to
>     hallucinate our internal states on them is aesthetically more
>     pleasant in cosmic terms for most of us. :-)
>     -- 
>     Stefano Vaj
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