[ExI] Basic Income - Basic Housing?

[William Flynn Wallace]

For anyone:  just when did it change?   By definition, a person seriously
mentally ill is not able to partake in any legal anything.  His opinion
does not matter.  In my day you could get someone involuntarily committed
with a judge and a psychiatrist.  I even saw one guy admitted because he
refused surgery on his appendix (got admitted, got the surgery - died).
bill w


On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:00 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org [mailto:
> extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On Behalf Of *Kelly Anderson
> *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 10:46 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Basic Income - Basic Housing?
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> >>...On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:35 AM, William Flynn Wallace <
> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I don't know either but I do know this:  alcoholics and drug addicts and
> the mentally retarded and psychotic should not be homeless unless they
> simply will not stay put in some kind of housing...
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> >...Bill,  When the courts prevent people from being incarcerated against
> their will when seriously mentally ill, it is a great victory for the
> personal freedom of the individual who is mentally ill. But with freedom
> comes responsibility...-Kelly
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> Ja.  Russia killed the notion of helping the mentally ill against their
> will by incarcerating in mental institutions those who espoused politically
> unconventional notions.  In our modern times in America, note how often we
> are now seeing comments about those who believe that global warming is not
> caused by humans.  These people are increasingly being seen as crazy and
> dangerous.
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> If we had a legal system which allowed them to be incarcerated against
> their will, the party in power could just incarcerate its political
> opponents, and oh how convenient that would be.  Permanent supermajority in
> congress, things could get DONE!  Just as in the case of the Affordable
> Care Act, actual debate on the floor of congress would be unnecessary.
> Insurance companies could just buy all the legislation they want on their
> own terms, the political opposition would be in mental institutions, or
> stifled under the threat of gong there, nooo problem.
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> spike
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