[ExI] How the world collapses

[William Flynn Wallace]

I can't speak for SF, but I think it will get a lot worse.  I read a book
on dust and found out that most of what China puts in the air comes east.
When they get through putting in umpteen coal power plants they will affect
us all.

Re our clean living:  I will be much surprised if our obesity epidemic
isn't related to chemicals in something: air, food, water, etc.  Ditto
rises in autism and other conditions.  I know that sounds sort of
paranoid/conspiracy -ish, but consider:  in the south Pacific,
schizophrenia occurs on the coast towns, but not inland where the natives
live lives untouched by modern things.  Interesting?  One theory is that
schizo. is a virus, which would explain that difference, but another is
exposure to modern chemicals.

bill w


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> > If trips take half again longer than they once did
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> Time is much more precious than oil.
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> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:45 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
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>> *From:* extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org [mailto:
>> extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On Behalf Of *John Clark
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 17, 2014 10:12 AM
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>> *To:* ExI chat list
>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] How the world collapses
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>> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> >>…  The solar panels on my roof don't seem very illusory.
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>> >…But solar panels on the roof of my car are illusory because my car has
>> 306 horsepower, one horsepower is equal to 746 watts so my car needs
>> 228,276 watts.  On a bright day at noon solar cells produce about 10 watts
>> per square foot, so my car would need 22,827 square feet of solar cells,
>> that's not counting the additional air resistance caused by the 151x151
>> foot square mounted on the car's roof and the "WIDE LOAD" banner I'd have
>> to place on the back.. And I still couldn't get to work at night or on
>> cloudy days.  John K Clark
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>> Ja, your car can produce 306 peak horsepower, but its average usage is
>> less than a tenth of that typically, and you can cut that in half if you
>> allow half again more time to make the trip.  If trips take half again
>> longer than they once did, we start thinking of ways to not go, or to
>> combine trips, saving even more.
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>> I have the notion that we will tear around like our asses are on fire so
>> long as it is cheap to do it.  Then after it isn’t cheap anymore, we will
>> stop.  Then we will have a whole new pile of problems.  Now we waste
>> because we can.
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